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Climate Change and Health Seminar: "Vulnerability of Latino/a & indigenous immigrants to climate disasters: case study of the Thomas Fire in California"

December 02, 2020
  • 00:01- So, hi everyone,
  • 00:02welcome to join us
  • 00:03and thank you for your patience
  • 00:05and welcome to the Yeltsin town country
  • 00:09to the house seminar,
  • 00:10I'm today's moderator, Kai Chen,
  • 00:13Assistant Professor
  • 00:14at the Yale School of Public Health.
  • 00:16If you have any questions during the presentation,
  • 00:19please use the chat box
  • 00:22and the speaker will answer them
  • 00:24at the end of the seminar.
  • 00:26So today, we're very pleased
  • 00:28to have Dr. Michael Mendez join us
  • 00:32who will talk about the vulnerabilities
  • 00:35of Latino communities
  • 00:37during the Thomas Fire in California.
  • 00:40So Dr. Mendez is an Assistant Professor
  • 00:44at the School of Social Ecology
  • 00:47of the University of California, Irvine.
  • 00:51So he has more than a decade experience
  • 00:55in the public and private sectors
  • 00:57and he was recently appointed
  • 01:00by the National Academy of Science,
  • 01:02Engineering and Medicine
  • 01:04to the board on on Environmental Change
  • 01:07and Society.
  • 01:09He recently has a new book published
  • 01:11by the Yale press
  • 01:14named "Climate Change from the Streets",
  • 01:17which provides an urgent and timely analysis
  • 01:21of the continuous policies
  • 01:24of incorporating environmental justice
  • 01:27into global climate change process.
  • 01:29So without further ado,
  • 01:31I'm handing over to Dr. Michael Mendez
  • 01:34and looking forward to his talk.
  • 01:37- Great, good morning.
  • 01:38Thank you, such a pleasure to be back at Yale
  • 01:40at least through Zoom.
  • 01:42So thank you to Robert
  • 01:44and everyone with the Climate and Health Center
  • 01:47at the Yale School Public Health
  • 01:50and sorry, I'm a little bit late,
  • 01:52I got mixed up with the time so but I'm happy.
  • 01:54It's online when I got the email.
  • 01:57So today I'm gonna be talking
  • 01:59about some research I actually started
  • 02:01at the Yale School of the Environment,
  • 02:02I'm looking at the "Disparate Impacts
  • 02:04of Wildfires on Undocumented Immigrants"
  • 02:07and specifically looking at "Lessons
  • 02:09on Inclusive Disaster
  • 02:10and Climate Adaptation Planning",
  • 02:14so as many of you know, in California,
  • 02:16over the last four or five months,
  • 02:19we have been experiencing
  • 02:20major climate change crises
  • 02:23and in the last two months alone,
  • 02:25millions of people have been impacted by fires,
  • 02:28blackouts, heat waves, worsening air quality
  • 02:32and of course, the ever present COVID-19 pandemic
  • 02:35and of course, loss of life and property.
  • 02:38These are all major life events
  • 02:40and the five of the 10 largest wildfires
  • 02:44by acreage ever recorded in California
  • 02:47occurred within the last three months.
  • 02:50These compounds of disaster
  • 02:52have a corresponding health,
  • 02:54social and economic impacts to people,
  • 02:56especially people of color
  • 03:00and these individuals have suffered multiple weeks
  • 03:03of unhealthy air,
  • 03:05and that has been worsening throughout California.
  • 03:08So today, I'm gonna be speaking
  • 03:09about some of the research that I did,
  • 03:11I co-authored it with community based organizations
  • 03:14on immigrant rights group,
  • 03:16a migrant rights group
  • 03:17as well as an environmental justice group
  • 03:19that were on the front lines
  • 03:20during the 2018 Thomas wildfire,
  • 03:25so our presentation is gonna talk
  • 03:26about how these individuals
  • 03:29on these community groups stepped up
  • 03:31when there was no official government response
  • 03:33for undocumented immigrant communities.
  • 03:35So these individuals were rendered invisible,
  • 03:39not because they live in the shadows,
  • 03:41not because people didn't know they were there
  • 03:43but they're rendered invisible
  • 03:44because of systemic racism
  • 03:46and cultural norms of who's considered
  • 03:49a worthy disaster victim
  • 03:51and oftentimes, undocumented immigrants
  • 03:54are not considered worthy disaster victims,
  • 03:55therefore, they're rendered invisible
  • 03:57and important resources,
  • 03:59government resources, disaster relief,
  • 04:02therefore is withheld from them,
  • 04:04which makes them more vulnerable
  • 04:06to disasters such as wildfires.
  • 04:10So it's important to understand
  • 04:11that Disaster Risk Reduction starts first
  • 04:14and foremost with social integration of migrants.
  • 04:18I just mentioned that
  • 04:19how these migrants were undocumented immigrants
  • 04:22were rendered invisible
  • 04:23because of systemic racism
  • 04:24and cultural norms
  • 04:25of who they were they disaster victim,
  • 04:27so if you bring in undocumented immigrant,
  • 04:30if you really wanna address Disaster Risk Reduction
  • 04:33before disaster you have
  • 04:34to acknowledge the existing inequalities
  • 04:36that undocumented immigrants experience
  • 04:39their pre-disaster marginalized status
  • 04:42and try to integrate
  • 04:43and reduce those inequalities
  • 04:45before disaster happens
  • 04:47because when a disaster happens,
  • 04:49that compounds in exasperates existing inequality
  • 04:53so the point is to understand
  • 04:54their pre-disaster marginalized status,
  • 04:59as I mentioned before,
  • 05:00this is some research that, first
  • 05:02that was recently published by Geoforum,
  • 05:05which is the leading human geography
  • 05:07on journal in the field
  • 05:09and we call it "the Invisible Victims of Disaster"
  • 05:13and I chose a community based on research project
  • 05:17and giving the migrant rights group
  • 05:19and environmental justice groups authorship
  • 05:21of this research
  • 05:23and we worked jointly and collaboratively
  • 05:25on the research questions,
  • 05:26the data and of course, the analysis
  • 05:28and throughout the publication.
  • 05:34Oh, my God, this is the older version.
  • 05:39So I just wanna show you some issues
  • 05:43about disaster recovery resources here,
  • 05:47this is an outline,
  • 05:51that minus one of the assembly members
  • 05:53where my parents live in Sylmar, California
  • 05:55which is in the northeast part of Los Angeles
  • 05:59and Sylmar, California
  • 06:00is the working class immigrant community
  • 06:03but it's important to note here
  • 06:04when you go for disaster assistance of funds,
  • 06:09you need to have a social security number
  • 06:11and you need to have a bank account
  • 06:12to receive federal disaster relief funds.
  • 06:14Undocumented immigrants are not eligible to that,
  • 06:18my parents, luckily are now US citizens
  • 06:22they are homeowners.
  • 06:23So their vulnerability is very different
  • 06:25on the other Latino migrant communities.
  • 06:29So oftentimes in disaster relief funding and practices,
  • 06:34these ideas of Latinos
  • 06:36being homogenous is integrated into policies
  • 06:39and it does not effectively address
  • 06:43all the issues that are happening
  • 06:45to these communities.
  • 06:46For example, these are some headlines
  • 06:48that have happened over the year
  • 06:50the Kincade Fire,
  • 06:51which is in Northern California,
  • 06:52Sonoma and Napa area,
  • 06:54it talks about how farm workers had to flee
  • 06:56from their houses, from the worker camps
  • 06:59that they lived without gas
  • 07:00and had to make shift shelters
  • 07:03on nearby beaches and other parks
  • 07:07because they were afraid to go to
  • 07:08on the designated shelters that the county
  • 07:10and local governments did
  • 07:12for fear of deportation of ice,
  • 07:15the Homeland Security coming in
  • 07:16and taking them as well.
  • 07:17There's also issues with language access.
  • 07:22Oftentimes, when you talk
  • 07:24about undocumented immigrants
  • 07:26that are coming from Latin America,
  • 07:27you think they're all Latino or Hispanic
  • 07:30but a lot of them are indigenous,
  • 07:32there were indigenous Mexicans
  • 07:34or indigenous individuals from other countries
  • 07:36and many of them are illiterate
  • 07:39and many of them don't speak Spanish,
  • 07:41let alone English.
  • 07:42So to be able to communicate to them
  • 07:44is quite important in their own languages,
  • 07:47particularly in an oral fashion
  • 07:49and then on the right hand side shows
  • 07:51about domestic workers.
  • 07:52Also domestic workers are also
  • 07:55along with an undocumented farm workers
  • 07:58are often asked to enter mandatory evacuation zones,
  • 08:02when the rest of the general public is asked
  • 08:05to leave and flee for public health
  • 08:06and safety issues.
  • 08:07These individuals are asked to go
  • 08:09into evacuation zones
  • 08:10either if there's a domestic worker trying
  • 08:12to get some of the goods and services,
  • 08:15the goods that are in that house
  • 08:18or undocumented workers
  • 08:20that have to go into the fields
  • 08:21to harvest the crops to protect them
  • 08:25from smoking ash that are coming down.
  • 08:27So it's a lot of inequalities
  • 08:29about individual
  • 08:30and oftentimes, these undocumented workers
  • 08:33cannot file restitution or claims for,
  • 08:37again, fear of deportation.
  • 08:40So quick roadmap of what I'll be covering today
  • 08:42is understanding well fire and inequality,
  • 08:45an overview of the Thomas wildfire
  • 08:47and its impact on undocumented immigrants
  • 08:50and then broader policy implications
  • 08:52and recommendations based on the research
  • 08:54that we did as a community based project again.
  • 08:57According to a recent Proceedings
  • 08:59of the National Academies,
  • 09:00climate change is making wildfire season longer
  • 09:03and more severe.
  • 09:04On average wildfires
  • 09:05in the western United States burn six times
  • 09:08the acreage they did 45 years ago,
  • 09:11in California, Sierra Nevada,
  • 09:12the frequency of wildfires since 1970,
  • 09:15has increased by 256%,
  • 09:18as the mountain snowpack melts earlier
  • 09:21and the fire season extends year around,
  • 09:24here it shows that 50 of the 20 largest wildfire
  • 09:29by acreage in California has incurred since 2000
  • 09:33and then you see here in this graphic
  • 09:35that was done earlier in the year
  • 09:37on the Thomas wildfire,
  • 09:38which happened in December 2017
  • 09:40and ended 40 days later in January 2018.
  • 09:44It was the second largest wildfire
  • 09:46until July of this year
  • 09:49but then all the wildfires happen in California
  • 09:53and it got knocked down to six in this graph
  • 09:56and there's a new updated table
  • 09:58that has a Thomas Fire number Seven
  • 10:01as the seventh largest wildfire by acreage,
  • 10:04so in just three months five other wildfires
  • 10:10overtook the Thomas wildfire as being the largest,
  • 10:14so the intensity and severity
  • 10:15of wildfires are happening more and more
  • 10:18here in California.
  • 10:20While climate scientists expect wildfires
  • 10:22to become more frequent and severe,
  • 10:24it is important to explore how some people
  • 10:26and communities are more affected
  • 10:28by these events and others.
  • 10:30Differences in human vulnerability
  • 10:32to wildfire stem from a range of social,
  • 10:34economic, historical and political factors.
  • 10:37These factors include unequal access
  • 10:40to disaster preparedness, knowledge
  • 10:41and resources, contrasts and legacies
  • 10:44of forest management practices,
  • 10:46an expansion of residential development
  • 10:48into the wildland.
  • 10:50Researchers at the University of Washington
  • 10:52recently analyzed
  • 10:54the unequal vulnerability of wildfires
  • 10:56for communities of color,
  • 10:58they use the social ecological approach
  • 11:00to determine wildfire vulnerability
  • 11:02across 70,000 census tracts in the United States.
  • 11:07This map here shows wildfire potential,
  • 11:09as determined by the US Forest Service
  • 11:11by census tract
  • 11:13and they're by and there's 29 million people
  • 11:16that are vulnerable to a wildfire
  • 11:18throughout the United States
  • 11:20and this again, it's only based on landscape risk,
  • 11:23that means how close you live next to a forest
  • 11:25or some type of landscape
  • 11:27that can catch on fire
  • 11:28and does not look at social demographics
  • 11:31or what we call social vulnerability.
  • 11:34The second map,
  • 11:35however, takes into account
  • 11:36both landscape wildfire risk
  • 11:38and socio-economic factors
  • 11:40to determine how likely an area's to adapt to
  • 11:43and recover from a wildfire.
  • 11:45They measure it by using data
  • 11:46from the 2014 census census on race,
  • 11:50income, language, education, housing,
  • 11:53and several other factors.
  • 11:55The research has found that communities
  • 11:56of color specifically those census tracts
  • 11:59within majority black, Latino,
  • 12:01or Native American, are 50% more vulnerable
  • 12:05to wildfires compared to other census tracts.
  • 12:08This research shows that the 29 million Americans
  • 12:11who live in areas with significant chance
  • 12:14of extreme wildfires are white
  • 12:17and social economically secure.
  • 12:19Traditional analysis often obscure the fact
  • 12:22that black Latino
  • 12:23and Native American people have worse prospects
  • 12:25for recovery from wildfire.
  • 12:28In California,
  • 12:29while many of these fire prone places
  • 12:32are largely populated by higher income groups,
  • 12:36they are also include hundreds of thousands
  • 12:38of low income individuals
  • 12:39who lack the resources
  • 12:43to prepare or recover from the wildfire.
  • 12:45These numbers will likely surge according
  • 12:47to the California fourth Climate Assessment Report,
  • 12:51which projects at the state's wildfire burn area
  • 12:54will increase by 77% by the end of the century.
  • 12:58The State of California
  • 12:59recently just updated their own maps
  • 13:03to include social vulnerability
  • 13:05but until recently,
  • 13:07they did not have any wildfire maps
  • 13:10based on social vulnerability.
  • 13:12Understanding social vulnerability,
  • 13:14particularly for undocumented immigrants
  • 13:16is important because even existing social border
  • 13:19building maps such as the one we see here
  • 13:21by the University of Washington are still inadequate.
  • 13:24If we zero in on the communities
  • 13:27and counties of Santa Barbara and Ventura County,
  • 13:30it shows that it has a low level
  • 13:33of social vulnerability to wildfire.
  • 13:35That's because there's a high level
  • 13:36of high income individuals in Santa Barbara Ventura
  • 13:39and moreover, because undocumented immigrants
  • 13:42are often undercounted in the US Census,
  • 13:45so it doesn't accurately show
  • 13:47that the level of social vulnerability
  • 13:49doesn't have that a contextual,
  • 13:51what they call contextual vulnerability analysis,
  • 13:56identifying those
  • 13:57that are most socially vulnerable,
  • 13:58it's important because in California Rural low income
  • 14:01and immigrant communities,
  • 14:02residents often do not have the required resources
  • 14:05to pay for insurance, rebuild
  • 14:08or to invest in fire safety,
  • 14:10which increases their vulnerability to wildfire.
  • 14:14Such outcomes occurring during
  • 14:16and after wildfires
  • 14:17have major environmental justice implications
  • 14:20and that certain populations
  • 14:21due to their socio economic status,
  • 14:23must live with the disproportionate share
  • 14:26of environmental impacts
  • 14:27and suffer the related public health
  • 14:29and quality of life burdens.
  • 14:32In a few moments,
  • 14:33I'm gonna jump into the case study
  • 14:36and look at the disaster impacts
  • 14:39from the Thomas wildfire,
  • 14:41but first, I would like to provide some background
  • 14:43on the fire and some demographics
  • 14:46on undocumented immigrants in the region.
  • 14:49On December 4th, 2017,
  • 14:52the Thomas Fire started north of the city
  • 14:54of Santa Paula and Ventura County,
  • 14:56it grew quickly to nearly 31,000 acres
  • 14:59or 50 square miles
  • 15:00in less than 12 hours,
  • 15:02its explosive growth was driven
  • 15:04by a combination of climactic events
  • 15:06including dry foliage, low humidity
  • 15:09and intense Santa Ana winds
  • 15:11that gusted up to 60 miles per hour.
  • 15:13At the time of final containment
  • 15:15on January 20th, 2018,
  • 15:1840 days later,
  • 15:19the Thomas Fire would be classified
  • 15:21as a second largest wildfire
  • 15:23in California's history.
  • 15:24The firestorm affected hundreds of thousands
  • 15:27of residents in the counties of Ventura
  • 15:29and Santa Barbara,
  • 15:30resulting in massive blackouts,
  • 15:32destruction of over 1000 buildings
  • 15:34and the fatality of one firefighter,
  • 15:37media outlets across the country focus
  • 15:39on news reports and loss of coastal
  • 15:42and hillside mansions
  • 15:43and impacts to wealthy farm owners and homeowners.
  • 15:47The Thomas Fire however,
  • 15:48not only destroyed expensive property and crops
  • 15:51but it also endanger the health
  • 15:53and livelihood of thousands
  • 15:54of undocumented immigrants.
  • 15:56California is home
  • 15:58to an estimated 2.5 million undocumented immigrants,
  • 16:01many of whom are foreign workers
  • 16:02or employed in service jobs
  • 16:05such as housekeeping and landscaping.
  • 16:07In Ventura and Santa Barbara Counties
  • 16:09undocumented immigrants are estimated
  • 16:12to account for more than 9%
  • 16:14of the total population or 111,000 people.
  • 16:17So Ventura and Santa Barbara counties
  • 16:20are heavily fire prone and drought impacted area,
  • 16:23the landscape and between mountains
  • 16:25and oceans creates vulnerabilities
  • 16:27and housing, transportation
  • 16:29and the infrastructure in the region.
  • 16:31It's a major agricultural
  • 16:33and tourism industries with low rates immigrant workforce
  • 16:38and there's a high level racial
  • 16:40and economic inequality and a lack of political
  • 16:43and economic inclusion.
  • 16:49While relief efforts
  • 16:50in the Thomas Fire have largely been praised
  • 16:52as effective, immigrant workers
  • 16:55were especially impacted from the fire
  • 16:56due to the loss of employment,
  • 16:58the lack of evacuation information
  • 17:01in their native language,
  • 17:02confusion about eligibility
  • 17:04for Disaster Relief Services
  • 17:06and port infrastructure and housing
  • 17:08in immigrant communities,
  • 17:09undocumented immigrants socio-economic situation
  • 17:12is usually precarious.
  • 17:14However, that wildfire disaster intensified
  • 17:16they're already difficult situation.
  • 17:18The Thomas Fire reviewed revealed
  • 17:21how undocumented immigrants
  • 17:23and those with seasonal work via visas
  • 17:25require special consideration
  • 17:27and disaster planning.
  • 17:29These individuals are often afraid
  • 17:31to seek help and restitution during
  • 17:33and after a wildfire disaster
  • 17:36for fear of deportation,
  • 17:37undocumented immigrants are also unable
  • 17:40to access Disaster Relief Services
  • 17:42because of language barriers
  • 17:43and prohibition
  • 17:44from assessing federal disaster
  • 17:46relief assistant programes.
  • 17:48On this picture
  • 17:49shows the two community research partners
  • 17:51that I work with on this co-authored
  • 17:53the Mixteco Indigina Community Organizing Project
  • 17:56or MICOP
  • 17:57and that's a picture of Genevieve Flores-Haro,
  • 18:01one of the co-authors,
  • 18:02she's holding in her hands,
  • 18:04a couple boxes of N95 masks
  • 18:07that they were distributing to farm workers
  • 18:10because employers
  • 18:11and supervisors were not providing PPEE
  • 18:13on even though there was a toxic smoke circulated
  • 18:17in air as these these workers laboured
  • 18:20into the fields.
  • 18:21Also on the right hand side is the other committee
  • 18:24to co-author on the Central Coast Alliance United
  • 18:26for a Sustainable Economy,
  • 18:28that's Lucas Zucker
  • 18:29and you see he's on top of empty boxes
  • 18:31of thousands of N95 masks
  • 18:34that were distributed because the county,
  • 18:36the government, the federal government,
  • 18:38as well as supervisors
  • 18:40and farm owners did not pass these out.
  • 18:50Governments in the region overlook the needs
  • 18:52of low income farmers, Spanish
  • 18:54and indigenous Mixtecal speakers
  • 18:56and immigrant families.
  • 18:58Ventura and Santa Barbara counties are both home
  • 19:01to a growing indigenous Mexican population.
  • 19:03It is estimated that over 25,000 indigenous Oaxacan people
  • 19:07from southern Mexico live
  • 19:09and work in Ventura County.
  • 19:10Well, Santa Barbara County is home
  • 19:12to a population estimated at 29,000,
  • 19:15concentrated in labour intensive sectors such as row crops
  • 19:19and cut flowers, indigenous migrants
  • 19:21performing an increasing amount
  • 19:23of the arduous labour
  • 19:24which contributes to the profitability
  • 19:26and affordability of fresh fruits and vegetables.
  • 19:29In particular, Mixtec people
  • 19:30in Ventura County are culturally
  • 19:32and linguistically isolated.
  • 19:34Many are illiterate
  • 19:36and most speak neither Spanish nor English
  • 19:39but only their native language Mixtecal
  • 19:41which is only oral.
  • 19:43It is important to note
  • 19:44that Mixtec people are not Hispanic
  • 19:46or Latino but are indigenous.
  • 19:48They're often homogenized
  • 19:50with the general Latino population.
  • 19:55The fact that they often cannot communicate
  • 19:57with people
  • 19:58beyond their own indigenous communities
  • 19:59and pizza building,
  • 20:00obtain appropriate health care, housing,
  • 20:02education, negotiate with their employers
  • 20:05to improve their work situation
  • 20:07and exercise their basic civil rights,
  • 20:10with these variables in mind,
  • 20:11our research adopts the work in the field
  • 20:14of public health
  • 20:14that examines issues
  • 20:16of intersectionality,
  • 20:18that is how social categories
  • 20:20such as gender, class, race, indigeneity,
  • 20:24immigration status
  • 20:25and other class aspects of human identity
  • 20:27intersect with wildfire disaster.
  • 20:30The concept of intersectionality has been used
  • 20:33to highlight how these categories of culture
  • 20:36and identity overlap hiding in
  • 20:38the effects of discrimination,
  • 20:40exclusion, social inequality
  • 20:42and systemic injustice in the lives
  • 20:45of specific individuals,
  • 20:46an intersectional approach to wildfire disaster,
  • 20:49it emphasizes how certain people
  • 20:52and groups suffer worse effects
  • 20:54because of overlapping factors
  • 20:56that are often measured separately
  • 21:00and this respect,
  • 21:01we define social vulnerability to welfare
  • 21:03as comprised of the risk of exposure,
  • 21:05the likelihood that people
  • 21:07will be affected, sensitivity,
  • 21:09the degree to which people will be affected
  • 21:12and adaptive capacity,
  • 21:13the ability of people to prepare
  • 21:15and, or recover from a wildfire
  • 21:18based on available resources.
  • 21:22Moreover, we ask the question
  • 21:24of what does adaptive capacity mean
  • 21:25for migrant communities?
  • 21:27Most of the literature on adapting communities
  • 21:29to wildfire focuses
  • 21:30on redesigning communities focus on homeowners,
  • 21:34how can we design our homes and buildings
  • 21:36through land use and building codes
  • 21:38but what does this mean
  • 21:39to migrant undocumented communities
  • 21:42on terms of language access,
  • 21:44worker health and safety rights,
  • 21:46immigration status and access
  • 21:47to disaster relief
  • 21:49and housing and transportation impacts.
  • 21:53So now I'm finally gonna jump
  • 21:55into some of the impacts
  • 21:56that were present through the Thomas wildfire.
  • 22:00There was an equity in terms of language access
  • 22:03to Emergency Information,
  • 22:05while this area has a large proportion
  • 22:09of Latino and Hispanic individuals
  • 22:12that speak Spanish in the area
  • 22:13and have been living here for generations.
  • 22:16The counties of interest Santa Barbara counties
  • 22:18did not have anyone in their emergency services
  • 22:21to do live translations,
  • 22:24so that the fire raged on for nearly 10 days
  • 22:28and there was no translation
  • 22:30of Emergency Information
  • 22:31that included advisory alerts
  • 22:33about poor air quality,
  • 22:36about sheltering about emergency evacuations
  • 22:39about boiler or alerts.
  • 22:41What they did on the fourth day
  • 22:43is put a Google Translate tool on top
  • 22:45in their websites
  • 22:46as well as on top of Emergency Information
  • 22:51and it had one sentence in Spanish
  • 22:53that read that if you don't speak English,
  • 22:56please take this Emergency Information note
  • 22:59to somebody that can translate it for you
  • 23:02and then the Google Translate
  • 23:04at the time this was about three years ago
  • 23:06was not as refined as it is today
  • 23:09and when you would type in a wildfire,
  • 23:13it would be translated as hairbrush
  • 23:16so there was a lot of inequities that occurred,
  • 23:20it took about 10 days
  • 23:21for the state of California to land somebody
  • 23:26from the Governor's Office of Emergency services
  • 23:28to help do light translations
  • 23:31but in the interim,
  • 23:32MICOP and CAUSE the two communities organizations
  • 23:35had to do all the translations
  • 23:37in their social media platforms.
  • 23:39They have a low power radio station,
  • 23:42that they're able to translate in Spanish
  • 23:45and Mixtecal
  • 23:46and a couple other other commonly spoken languages
  • 23:48in the area
  • 23:52and as you can see,
  • 23:52these are some of the air quality advisories
  • 23:56in the wildfire in Ventura,
  • 23:58the maroon and dark purple areas
  • 24:01is where a lot of the farms are working
  • 24:03and these are mandatory evacuation zones
  • 24:07but oftentimes, still,
  • 24:09farm workers are still entering
  • 24:11into these mandatory evacuation zones
  • 24:13to work in and protect some of the crops
  • 24:16from smoke and ash.
  • 24:18As you see from here,
  • 24:19there's a safe drinking water access.
  • 24:21So none of this was translated
  • 24:23for nearly two weeks
  • 24:25and MICOP through the radio station
  • 24:29and other social communication platforms was able
  • 24:32to translate that
  • 24:34and get it to about 30,000 people in the region.
  • 24:38The community, as I mentioned before,
  • 24:40had to step up
  • 24:40because there was no official government response.
  • 24:44Even though these individuals
  • 24:45have been living here for four generations.
  • 24:48As the counties there Santa Barbara, Ventura
  • 24:52and even the state decided not to invest
  • 24:56any resources ahead of disasters
  • 24:59and protecting the socially vulnerable community.
  • 25:04So they had a lot of hazard
  • 25:05and mitigation plans in effect,
  • 25:08but none of them talked about social vulnerability
  • 25:10and specifically undocumented immigrants
  • 25:13and farm workers
  • 25:15and one of the major impacts was worker health
  • 25:18and safety impacts
  • 25:19as I showed in the previous slides,
  • 25:21MICOP and CAUSE had to distribute PP equipment
  • 25:25because this was not provided
  • 25:27by the state county governments,
  • 25:29let alone their employers.
  • 25:31So they got some funds donated
  • 25:35from private and other government sources
  • 25:38to go and purchase some of these N95 masks,
  • 25:41goggles and gloves as well
  • 25:44and here are some of the interviews
  • 25:46that we did from our research.
  • 25:48Some of the farm workers,
  • 25:49a farm worker from Oxford told us
  • 25:50during the fire I worked three days
  • 25:50without a mask.
  • 25:51It caused me headaches and watery eyes
  • 25:52as well as a cough.
  • 25:53We were scared
  • 25:54because we were very near
  • 25:55where the fire was occurring.
  • 25:55The masks were not handed out
  • 25:56until the city came to regulate.
  • 25:57Another farm worker told us,
  • 25:58we all got sick our throats closed
  • 25:59in from breathing too much smoke
  • 26:00and our kids couldn't go to school.
  • 26:00We had to buy mask and medicine for our throats
  • 26:01and some goggles because my eyes were irritated
  • 26:02when I worked.
  • 26:03There was also economic
  • 26:04and health impacts on workers,
  • 26:05in particular, some of these farms did burn down
  • 26:05or it was just too hazardous to go work
  • 26:06so they were shut down.
  • 26:07So a lot of people lost income
  • 26:08and a waste to support their family as well.
  • 26:09There was black and there was mudslides
  • 26:10after the fires that occurred finished
  • 26:10in mid January,
  • 26:11there was a torrential rains that came
  • 26:12and created mudslides,
  • 26:13major mudslides that that were caused
  • 26:14from the fire debris as well
  • 26:15and that also killed additional people
  • 26:15that will we'll be speaking about come shortly.
  • 26:16A domestic worker service workers
  • 26:17also were impacted.
  • 26:18Some of these mansions
  • 26:19in the states were burned down
  • 26:20to the ground and he did not have any sources
  • 26:20of income as as undocumented migrants there
  • 26:21during eligible for unemployment relief funds
  • 26:22as well as a federal disaster relief funds.
  • 26:23One of our informants one of the people
  • 26:24we interviewed also told us
  • 26:25about the neck Woody's that were happening.
  • 26:25For instance, one of the domestic workers told us
  • 26:26as well as the Los Angeles Times
  • 26:27that while her her employer threat fled the home
  • 26:28because it was a mandatory evacuation zone,
  • 26:29she asked a domestic worker to stay
  • 26:30and safeguard the house
  • 26:30and to be able to get a couple items
  • 26:31if the fire would get too close to the house.
  • 26:32So these individuals were asked,
  • 26:33not forced but asked and pressure
  • 26:34to stay in mandatory fire evacuation zone.
  • 26:35Here's some additional quotes
  • 26:35from one landscaper in Santa Barbara.
  • 26:36I could not get to the homes
  • 26:37where I work because the streets were close
  • 26:38to the homes I worked at were destroyed.
  • 26:39One of my good friends was lost
  • 26:40during the most mudflow.
  • 26:40He had only been living in Montecito
  • 26:41for three weeks before he died.
  • 26:42I myself a cancer survivor
  • 26:43and the only one who provides for the family.
  • 26:44Another worker told us the day
  • 26:45of the fire started the sky was covered with smoke
  • 26:45and we were sent home.
  • 26:46The next day we didn't work
  • 26:47because it was dangerous due to the fire.
  • 26:48We lost power because it was cut off
  • 26:49by the fire and we lost food
  • 26:50and melt for our kids. During the mudslides.
  • 26:50We couldn't get to work
  • 26:51and we're told to stay home for two days.
  • 26:52As I mentioned before immigration status
  • 26:53and disaster aid really limits people's
  • 26:54in adaptive capacity,
  • 26:55how they're going to bounce back
  • 26:55from the disaster and recover,
  • 26:56so that they're not provided
  • 26:57with government resources
  • 26:58even though they're contributing to the economy
  • 26:59in our society.
  • 27:00As a result, migrant rights groups
  • 27:00and other social justice
  • 27:01and nonprofit groups in the region
  • 27:02create the 805 undock cufon this was modelled off
  • 27:03of the original undocumented Sonoma
  • 27:04and Napa County for the fires
  • 27:05that happen on about six months earlier on
  • 27:05and so this was modelled after Napa Sonoma
  • 27:06and as you can see from here
  • 27:07on total relief was provided
  • 27:08to nearly 2000 families
  • 27:09on almost 4000 undocumented people
  • 27:10and over 7000 mixed status individuals
  • 27:10and over $2 million has been raised
  • 27:11on their continued to raise as these fires
  • 27:12and other COVID-19 persists
  • 27:13and but often there's a waiting list
  • 27:14because there's not enough funding on
  • 27:15to support all undocumented families
  • 27:15that want to be supported through the spine.
  • 27:16It's important to note that these mix families
  • 27:17that mix families should not have to go
  • 27:18to a private disaster relief fund like this
  • 27:19but many are for fear of on deportation
  • 27:20because even though a mixed family is a family
  • 27:20that has a US resident or US citizen
  • 27:21and but there's also undocumented migrants
  • 27:22within that household living
  • 27:23in the same household
  • 27:24and so they're eligible
  • 27:25but by being residents or US citizens
  • 27:25but under the Trump administration
  • 27:26as you fill out, these FEMA forms,
  • 27:27there is a disclosure there that states
  • 27:28that this information may
  • 27:29or may be shared with ice,
  • 27:30which is immigration and customs,
  • 27:30Customs and Immigration Services.
  • 27:31So that really scares some families
  • 27:32that are eligible for federal disaster relief
  • 27:33from accessing it.
  • 27:34So that that that sense of fear
  • 27:35and sharing of information with ice is intentional
  • 27:35and really continue contributes
  • 27:36to the rendering on this population invisible.
  • 27:37Here's another quote
  • 27:38on regarding the undocumented.
  • 27:39My husband was deported,
  • 27:40just before the fire,
  • 27:40I was really struggling to find work in the fields.
  • 27:41I finally got hired the first week
  • 27:42in December 2017
  • 27:43but was let go once the fire
  • 27:44and smoke grew too big
  • 27:45and in the fruit spoil
  • 27:45as the only breadwinner,
  • 27:46I had to borrow money from friends
  • 27:47and family to feed my kids.
  • 27:48Our food went bad due to the power outage
  • 27:49adding to our expenses.
  • 27:50I am grateful for the DOC UFA,
  • 27:50Funding Assistance,
  • 27:51I am still in need to help
  • 27:52and continue coming to MICOP for other services.
  • 27:53There was also a loss of regional housing stock.
  • 27:54So it wasn't just manage mega mansions
  • 27:55and wealthy individuals.
  • 27:55There was also housing stock lost
  • 27:56and some parts of Santa Barbara
  • 27:57that were multi family housing
  • 27:58but any California as you may know,
  • 27:59like San Francisco, on the Central Coast,
  • 28:00Santa Barbara,
  • 28:00in particular has an affordable housing crunch.
  • 28:01So any loss of housing has an impact
  • 28:02throughout the region,
  • 28:03as people have to move to other housing,
  • 28:04to replace their homes.
  • 28:05So that increases the price
  • 28:05as a rental market and price gouging.
  • 28:06So there was instances
  • 28:07in some of these communities
  • 28:08in East Santa Barbara
  • 28:09where many of the workers live,
  • 28:10you had one large landowner,
  • 28:10increasing rent by at least $300.
  • 28:11So there's a lot in equity
  • 28:12in terms of housing stock,
  • 28:13the protests essentially happened
  • 28:14after that price gouging
  • 28:15but this is an occurrence
  • 28:15that happens particularly a lot in undocumented,
  • 28:16migrant communities.
  • 28:17The land owners know
  • 28:18that they're often these individuals
  • 28:19are not going to tell the government
  • 28:20and so they feel that they can get away with this.
  • 28:20There was also loss of transportation infrastructure.
  • 28:21This is a picture
  • 28:22of the one on one freeway one one highway.
  • 28:23So this is the major arterial highway
  • 28:27connecting Ventura County
  • 28:29to Santa Barbara County,
  • 28:34as I mentioned before the oceans on one side
  • 28:35and then you have large mountains
  • 28:37on the other side.
  • 28:38So this is one of the most efficient,
  • 28:53affordable ways to to reach Santa Barbara
  • 29:06and Ventura counties
  • 29:13but at the fire and the mudslides
  • 29:15on blocked access
  • 29:16to this area so workers could not get to work.
  • 29:20So if you didn't have funds
  • 29:21to find alternative forms of transportation,
  • 33:32then you were really very out of luck
  • 33:33and it was a situation
  • 33:36where you would lose more income.
  • 33:38So people with higher incomes were able
  • 33:40to rent boats,
  • 33:42they actually rented boats
  • 33:43to get around the highway,
  • 33:45other people bought expensive Amtrak tickets
  • 33:49and then finally other people drove
  • 33:51all the way around the mountains
  • 33:52which took a lot much longer,
  • 33:54a lot more gas to to get around
  • 33:56but many undocumented immigrants don't have
  • 33:58that extra cash
  • 33:59to do these alternative transportation modes
  • 34:03and then, looking at the limitations,
  • 34:06now I wanna jump
  • 34:07into sort of the policy implications
  • 34:08of some of our research
  • 34:10and particularly the limits
  • 34:11of vulnerability mapping,
  • 34:14current social vulnerability
  • 34:15mapping renders many minority
  • 34:18and poor communities of color invisible.
  • 34:21For example, the University of Washington map
  • 34:24shows Santa Barbara and Ventura counties
  • 34:26as having low levels of social vulnerability
  • 34:28due to the large proportion
  • 34:30of economically secure households in the region,
  • 34:33however as we've shown in our research,
  • 34:35Latino and indigenous migrant communities
  • 34:38were among the most impacted
  • 34:40during the Thomas Fire.
  • 34:41Moreover, immigration status
  • 34:43has received little attention
  • 34:44and disaster vulnerability mapping.
  • 34:47Though a large proportion
  • 34:48of disaster studies have considered race
  • 34:50and ethnicity as the vulnerability factor
  • 34:53impacts experienced by migrants
  • 34:55require an intersectional research approach.
  • 35:00Current vulnerability mapping approach
  • 35:02also fails to account for the complex web
  • 35:05of impacts caused by disasters
  • 35:07far beyond destruction of property
  • 35:09within the perimeter of the fire itself.
  • 35:11Toxic smoke flows down from burning mountainside,
  • 35:14settling in densely populated valleys
  • 35:16below threatening outdoor workers,
  • 35:18lavish hillside mansions are destroyed
  • 35:20or evacuated, leaving low income migrant gardeners,
  • 35:25housekeepers and caregivers unemployed.
  • 35:27Tourism throughout the region shuts down
  • 35:30putting thousands of hotel employees out of work.
  • 35:32From the loss of housing
  • 35:33and infrastructure to the closure of schools
  • 35:35and job sites,
  • 35:37multiple regions are impacted
  • 35:39beyond the census tracts
  • 35:40identified in mapping models
  • 35:41of buyer landscape risk zones.
  • 35:44For example, a low income migrant family
  • 35:47living outside of Bern area
  • 35:48whose loses several weeks of wages
  • 35:51without eligibility for federal
  • 35:53and state assistance may be more negatively
  • 35:55impacted than a higher income homeowner
  • 35:58who lives within the fire risk zone
  • 36:01whose property is replaced
  • 36:02by their homeowners insurance policy,
  • 36:04which also pays for hotel commendations
  • 36:07for them to stay in the interim.
  • 36:13The policy implication here
  • 36:15that I wanna drive home really
  • 36:18is that existing inequalities are exacerbated
  • 36:20during the disasters
  • 36:21because there is no existing social safety net
  • 36:24before a disaster to protect these individuals.
  • 36:27So Disaster Risk Reduction must start
  • 36:30with social integration of migrants
  • 36:31before a disaster.
  • 36:35So the COVID-19 pandemic,
  • 36:36I could talk a little bit more
  • 36:37about this in the Q&A, has really decimated
  • 36:41some of these communities
  • 36:43but this Thomas Fire
  • 36:45that happened was three years ago
  • 36:47and the fires in Northern California, Sonoma,
  • 36:51Napa County happened about three years ago as well
  • 36:56and is since those fires
  • 36:58that continue to happen
  • 36:59these regions have become a little bit more
  • 37:03proactive in disaster planning,
  • 37:04particularly groups like MICOP
  • 37:06and other migrant rights groups
  • 37:08have really asserted their rights
  • 37:09to speak as disaster experts
  • 37:13and really have demanded to be
  • 37:15in some of these county
  • 37:16and state government meetings as stakeholders
  • 37:19and disaster planning.
  • 37:21So infrastructure through protests
  • 37:23and advocacy has expanded
  • 37:26to be able to provide more adequate resources
  • 37:30to individuals during disasters and pandemics
  • 37:33and as I talked to some of these migrant groups,
  • 37:36they all tell me that
  • 37:37while the COVID-19 pandemic has decimated
  • 37:41those communities had it not been
  • 37:43for the planning after the wildfires,
  • 37:45disasters and these farm worker communities,
  • 37:48the COVID-19 pandemic would have been far worse
  • 37:51because they had at least three years
  • 37:53to become experts and demand resources
  • 37:57from the state and local governments.
  • 38:00So the broader policy implication
  • 38:03of this research
  • 38:04is to ensure inclusive disaster planning
  • 38:07that we must draw on migrant community knowledge,
  • 38:10embrace migrant communities
  • 38:11and disaster planning, response
  • 38:13and recovery and bolster a lot
  • 38:15of next indigenous civil society organizations capacity
  • 38:18in disaster relief and planning efforts.
  • 38:22So some outcomes that happened
  • 38:24since a Thomas wildfire California
  • 38:27has adopted some very culturally
  • 38:30and linguistically
  • 38:31inclusive disaster planning resources
  • 38:35requiring county and state governments
  • 38:39to provide language access
  • 38:41to Emergency Information
  • 38:43and that's also contingent disaster relief aid.
  • 38:47So if you want state disaster relief aid,
  • 38:49you have to update your protocols
  • 38:51on disaster planning and your language access
  • 38:55and there's also been funding tied
  • 38:58to cultural competency and disaster planning
  • 39:00and climate resilient planning.
  • 39:02So these local governments have to show
  • 39:04how they're proactively working
  • 39:05with socially vulnerable communities
  • 39:07ahead of disaster and to their mitigation
  • 39:09that hazard mitigation plans.
  • 39:12Some of the recommendations,
  • 39:13we end our research with that
  • 39:14there should be a state wide Disaster Relief Fund
  • 39:17for all regardless of immigration status.
  • 39:19It's inequitable that civil society,
  • 39:22particularly migrant organizations
  • 39:26that have little resources have to extend
  • 39:28so much of their capital
  • 39:31and fundraising efforts
  • 39:33to safeguard these communities
  • 39:35when this should be the role
  • 39:36of the state government.
  • 39:37There should also be emergency funding
  • 39:39for CBOs on the ground working
  • 39:42with these communities.
  • 39:43Again, they have little resources,
  • 39:48state and local governments
  • 39:49need to develop new methods
  • 39:50to map socially vulnerable communities
  • 39:52as I showed from the University of Washington
  • 39:54on social vulnerability mapping,
  • 39:56which is a great tool,
  • 39:58but it still renders some communities invisible
  • 40:00such as undocumented immigrants
  • 40:02and into codified into law protections
  • 40:05from wildfire smoke right now,
  • 40:07advocates was able to work
  • 40:10with the State Board of Occupational Health
  • 40:13and Safety to do an emergency regulation
  • 40:16for wildfire smoke.
  • 40:18So when the air quality reaches 151 index,
  • 40:23employers are required
  • 40:24to provide a PPE N95 respirator masks
  • 40:29but that's temporary
  • 40:30and it's really been uneven up
  • 40:32how this is enforced
  • 40:34and this should be codified into law.
  • 40:37So, I also had spoken to some individuals
  • 40:41in Sonoma throughout the Central Coast
  • 40:43that experienced fires on this past summer
  • 40:48and they also account
  • 40:49that there's an uneven N95 mass implementation
  • 40:53throughout the state
  • 40:54and in fact,
  • 40:56the State Office of Occupational Health and Safety
  • 40:59only has about a dozen Spanish speaking,
  • 41:02individuals that go out in the field
  • 41:04to do investigations on complaints
  • 41:06and compliance with this.
  • 41:08As far as I know,
  • 41:09they don't have anyone
  • 41:10that speaks indigenous languages,
  • 41:11so there's only about 12
  • 41:13or so people in the entire state of California,
  • 41:16there's a state of 40 million people,
  • 41:19only about 12 of them speak Spanish
  • 41:21that work in the field.
  • 41:22So there's a course on even implementation
  • 41:25of the role on the air quality index
  • 41:27that I mentioned about the wildfire smoke,
  • 41:31there's uncertainty about how this is being achieved.
  • 41:35Oftentimes, these air quality monitoring stations,
  • 41:38our government monitoring stations
  • 41:39are often miles away
  • 41:41from the actual farm worker site.
  • 41:43So you may have a 151 index
  • 41:46about five miles away at air quality station
  • 41:49but that index could be much higher
  • 41:52at the field next,
  • 41:53that's happening near closer to the fire.
  • 41:56So there needs to be opportunities
  • 41:57to have real time handheld
  • 42:00GPS type of air quality monitoring
  • 42:03that these individuals
  • 42:04and employers should be using
  • 42:07instead of having for a wait up there
  • 42:09monitoring stations.
  • 42:11There's no state guidance on implementation
  • 42:13of worker health and safety
  • 42:15there's little guidance on that
  • 42:17and one issue that's happening now,
  • 42:19particularly in Sonoma
  • 42:21is these access verification permits
  • 42:23that allows farm workers
  • 42:24to enter into mandatory evacuation zones over 400,
  • 42:28I believe was issued
  • 42:30by the Sonoma County Agricultural Commissioner
  • 42:35and this essentially allows foreign workers
  • 42:37to enter these mandatory evacuation zones
  • 42:39when everyone else is required to leave
  • 42:42and these supervisors,
  • 42:44the employers themselves
  • 42:45do not have any emergency plans.
  • 42:47So if the fire gets close to the farm worker site
  • 42:51or more toxic smoke overtakes the entire farm,
  • 42:55how are they gonna evacuate the farm workers
  • 42:58in a swift and safe fashion?
  • 43:02And moreover,
  • 43:02there's no health test for these workers.
  • 43:04So we don't know,
  • 43:06what is the risk of working
  • 43:08in this wildfire smoke itself
  • 43:13as you know, is hazardous to human health
  • 43:16but it's not only just the smoke itself
  • 43:18is the other types of toxins
  • 43:20that are missing from the burden buildings
  • 43:22that are in individuals.
  • 43:24So there's no follow up on workers testing
  • 43:28to find out calm how they're doing
  • 43:30after entering these mandatory evacuation zones
  • 43:34and again, Cal/OSHA has limited staff,
  • 43:37as I mentioned before
  • 43:40and there I'll be able to open up to questions
  • 43:45and I look forward
  • 43:46to hearing your questions and comments.
  • 43:48This is just a quick slide
  • 43:50that we recently did in October
  • 43:53with the governor's office
  • 43:55and the United Nations.
  • 43:56So the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel,
  • 44:00excuse me,
  • 44:01the United Nations International Organization
  • 44:05on Migration hosted a panel with ourselves
  • 44:09as well as the California governor's office
  • 44:12on Emergency Services to talk
  • 44:15about what the rest of the world could learn
  • 44:18from the migrant experience in California
  • 44:20because these disasters
  • 44:21because of climate change is making the severity
  • 44:23of these disasters more frequent and severe,
  • 44:26it's happening in Australia,
  • 44:27it's happening in Latin America,
  • 44:29it's happening in Greece
  • 44:31and migrant communities are all these places.
  • 44:34So the idea was to understand
  • 44:36what can the rest of the world learn
  • 44:37from the migrant wildfire disaster
  • 44:40experienced in California?
  • 44:42With that, I thank you for this opportunity
  • 44:45and look forward to speaking with you
  • 44:48about this research.
  • 44:51- Thank you, Michael,
  • 44:52so, wonderful presentation.
  • 44:55I know we do have a lot of questions coming
  • 44:57in the chat box.
  • 44:59So the first question is from Rebecca Hoffler,
  • 45:04she's asking,
  • 45:05are there any translation technologies available
  • 45:09to help overcome these niche language barriers
  • 45:12for migrants?
  • 45:15I had no idea many were not Spanish speaking
  • 45:18that is so crucial to them might be a quote,
  • 45:20tech or high education punishing
  • 45:23to do app that tech.
  • 45:24I know you mentioned about the Google translator
  • 45:26but any others?
  • 45:29Yeah, there's a couple that are there
  • 45:32but again, the owner should not be put
  • 45:34on the individual,
  • 45:36the individual resident worker
  • 45:38or community based organization,
  • 45:40the owners needs to be on local
  • 45:43and state government and federal government
  • 45:45to provide the resources
  • 45:46to safeguard all community residents,
  • 45:49regardless of immigration status.
  • 45:51So these individuals are important contributors
  • 45:54to our society, they make fresh fruits
  • 45:57and vegetables available for us
  • 45:59and do some of the important work
  • 46:01as essential workers,
  • 46:03but yet, we don't value them enough to safeguard.
  • 46:06So that's why I had mentioned
  • 46:09that systemic racism
  • 46:10and cultural norms of around immigration
  • 46:13determines who's the worthy disaster victim.
  • 46:16So yes, that's great in terms of the interim,
  • 46:18but local governments
  • 46:20that have this type of workforce
  • 46:22in their area needs to dedicate resources
  • 46:26for live translation
  • 46:28and have staffing a place like California,
  • 46:31everyone think California is so progressive
  • 46:34but here's a situation
  • 46:35where a population, two populations
  • 46:38are overlooked Spanish
  • 46:39and indigenous speaking individuals
  • 46:41are entirely rendered invisible.
  • 46:45- Well, thanks, we also actually have a lot
  • 46:47of questions pre-collected from the students
  • 46:52and they are quite interested
  • 46:55in are there any quantitative evidence
  • 46:59showing the vulnerability
  • 47:00of these undocumented Latino from the research?
  • 47:06- So right now,
  • 47:07there's social vulnerability mapping.
  • 47:10There's some great models
  • 47:11with the work the University of Washington did,
  • 47:13it is great
  • 47:14but right now, there's, that I'm aware of,
  • 47:17there's no new models
  • 47:18that takes into account undocumented immigrants
  • 47:22and right now that that would take
  • 47:24a very well thought out a research designed
  • 47:29and human subjects protocol process
  • 47:35and working closely
  • 47:36to do what you call ground truth
  • 47:38and working with hand in hand
  • 47:39with these migrant organizations
  • 47:41to identify individuals
  • 47:42or where they may be in general
  • 47:44'Cause you don't obviously don't want it
  • 47:45to be too specific because of ice
  • 47:47and Immigration Services
  • 47:50but enough where it is,
  • 47:51you can identify it broadly in a region
  • 47:55because right now,
  • 47:56as you saw in Ventura, Santa Barbara
  • 47:58and other places in California too
  • 48:00and I'm guessing in the United States
  • 48:03as well as the current indices,
  • 48:07basically whitewash these communities.
  • 48:11- Okay, I think so.
  • 48:13Another question from the audience is from Joseph
  • 48:19and I guess he's asking,
  • 48:22has research investigated the possibility
  • 48:25of training community health advocates
  • 48:28within the indigenous communities
  • 48:31so as to improve utilization
  • 48:33and access to social services,
  • 48:35health care, and disaster relief information?
  • 48:39- Yeah, so that's I mentioned a very briefly
  • 48:41about the COVID-19 pandemic,
  • 48:44it's been three years since Thomas wildfire
  • 48:47and about three years three and a half years,
  • 48:49since the first major recent fire
  • 48:53in Northern California
  • 48:55and those far more regions
  • 48:56and these advocates have become disaster experts
  • 49:01in their own, not by choice,
  • 49:04they were forced to become this
  • 49:05because this is the constituency
  • 49:07that they advocate and protect
  • 49:09and you see migrant rights
  • 49:11whose immigration rights group are working
  • 49:13on climate change now working
  • 49:14because there's a strong sort of the cyclical process.
  • 49:19A lot of these individuals
  • 49:20are leaving their countries
  • 49:23to some extent climate refugees
  • 49:24with a drought soil erosion
  • 49:26in their ancestral homeland,
  • 49:29particularly for people (indistinct)
  • 49:32that come to United States
  • 49:34and then they come over here
  • 49:35and it's a different types
  • 49:37of climate change impacts
  • 49:38that are happening to them.
  • 49:41So you see these groups be more active
  • 49:44in non-traditional immigration
  • 49:47priority topics such as the environment
  • 49:49and now disaster.
  • 49:50So these individuals are part
  • 49:51of what's Vlad, what's enough,
  • 49:54volunteers organized for assistance and disaster
  • 49:57or something
  • 49:58and so the several other roundtables around disaster
  • 50:03and particularly the Red Cross
  • 50:06and Salvation Army,
  • 50:07they also have their own private,
  • 50:10mainstream disaster relief systems.
  • 50:12So these individuals are now brought in
  • 50:14to those discussions
  • 50:16that these disaster relief organizations have,
  • 50:20as well as state and local government
  • 50:24- There is a question from the students,
  • 50:26I'm glad you mentioned that COVID-19 situation
  • 50:30and listeners are wondering,
  • 50:32that does the COVID-19 disaster relief assistance
  • 50:35for immigrants help make the case
  • 50:38that the states really need to put funding
  • 50:40for health care coverage
  • 50:42for this and also rights, workers?
  • 50:45- Yeah, so two things happen
  • 50:46in California first important
  • 50:48to know about COVID-19,
  • 50:49about language information that happens
  • 50:52and the language we stick on.
  • 50:54There's no word for virus,
  • 50:56so they had to come up
  • 50:58with different types of both oral
  • 51:01and pictorial on messaging
  • 51:03that talked about it and not COVID-19
  • 51:06but an unknown illness
  • 51:08and disease in that region,
  • 51:10to be able to convey that.
  • 51:11So that's one thing is having culturally sensitive
  • 51:14and culturally appropriate messaging
  • 51:17on Emergency Information is important
  • 51:19and they have built up somewhat of a capacity
  • 51:22to be able to do that now
  • 51:24and work in partnership with the state government
  • 51:26and because of the advocacy these groups have done,
  • 51:28as well as the importance
  • 51:31of the California Latino Legislative Caucus,
  • 51:34so that the Latino Legislative Caucus,
  • 51:36it is a caucus of Latinos,
  • 51:39a lot of next legislators
  • 51:41that work in the California State Legislature
  • 51:43and there are a big number now
  • 51:45and they have put a lot of pressure
  • 51:46along with advocates on the governor
  • 51:49to be more responsive to migrant communities,
  • 51:53particularly undocumented migrant communities
  • 51:55and this summer,
  • 51:57the governor put $50 million
  • 52:00in a temporary Disaster Relief Fund
  • 52:04and I believe
  • 52:05the philanthropic community did another 25,
  • 52:08so a total of 75 million that went
  • 52:10for one type tax evasion to households,
  • 52:13undocumented immigrant households,
  • 52:15anywhere between 400 and $700, I believe
  • 52:19but that money's already gone
  • 52:20and $75 million sounds like a lot
  • 52:21but that has been exhausted
  • 52:24and it will go one time cash visa.
  • 52:28- Thanks for the insights.
  • 52:31From the audience
  • 52:32there's also some question
  • 52:34regarding the the other types
  • 52:36of (indistinct) they meet
  • 52:39because sending the these communities,
  • 52:42from Leon Wesley, from Virginia is asking
  • 52:45is there any data info regarding the safety
  • 52:47of drinking water supplies
  • 52:49for their factory workers
  • 52:50and their living areas from this post fire
  • 52:53your mom took us in?
  • 52:56- Yeah, I'm a little bit aware of that,
  • 53:01so the toxins, as I mentioned,
  • 53:04mixing in the air,
  • 53:05it's just not regular trees burning down
  • 53:09but it's also all the materials
  • 53:11that build our houses and our infrastructure
  • 53:13that are quite toxic.
  • 53:15So that not only goes into the air
  • 53:17but that also goes into the water
  • 53:19in terms of what they call the fire debris
  • 53:23and the State Water Resources Control Board
  • 53:26is currently looking at that
  • 53:28in terms of maximum contaminant levels
  • 53:31and sort of what regions
  • 53:35and how these regions are being exposed
  • 53:37to this fire debris
  • 53:38in their community drinking water systems.
  • 53:41So that's something
  • 53:42that's currently being looked at.
  • 53:44Yes, but I don't know
  • 53:46how strong it's being regulated.
  • 53:52- Thank you.
  • 53:53So another question
  • 53:55from the audience is kind of related
  • 53:57to our earlier discussion
  • 53:58regarding the tours for these committees,
  • 54:04there is,
  • 54:05Marcus from Andrea is asking your experience
  • 54:09is having a digital healthcare a PP
  • 54:12for these communities by lingo
  • 54:15would that be helpful
  • 54:17to have accessible primary care
  • 54:19because these committees can have access
  • 54:22to mobile technologies are the prepare handling,
  • 54:26have these Wi-Fi
  • 54:29and mobile technologies available?
  • 54:33- I'm not sure entirely I understand that
  • 54:36but the MICOP,
  • 54:37the Mixtecal Indiana community organizing project
  • 54:41they did have a very high social media presence
  • 54:44and particularly WhatsApp
  • 54:46as from what I learned
  • 54:48from the recent and what I've been told,
  • 54:50is very popular in migrant communities,
  • 54:54particularly Mexican migrant communities.
  • 54:56So they decimate information
  • 54:59through WhatsApp, through their Instagram,
  • 55:02their Facebook
  • 55:04and I think they have another social media
  • 55:06and then of course, the radio,
  • 55:07the radio is a very simple one
  • 55:10that individuals get a lot
  • 55:12of their information from.
  • 55:14- Thank you.
  • 55:14I think given the time,
  • 55:15we'll have the final last question,
  • 55:17do we stop living later?
  • 55:20The question combining
  • 55:21from both the students asking
  • 55:23and one of the audiences kinda asking
  • 55:25about you have shown very powerful images,
  • 55:29both in the paper and the presentation
  • 55:31and telling the story
  • 55:33of these workers were required
  • 55:35to stay behind all gathering belong
  • 55:38from the employers home
  • 55:40despite this evacuation points.
  • 55:43So some, like insights
  • 55:46regarding how to help
  • 55:48make these local employers accountable
  • 55:52for putting workers
  • 55:54in these dangerous situations.
  • 55:55- Sure.
  • 55:57I didn't get a chance to download this audio file
  • 56:03because of the mix up in time
  • 56:06but I want to talk first play this audio file
  • 56:09real quick of what the Mixtec language sounds like.
  • 56:12I'm sure there's many people
  • 56:13that have never heard it before.
  • 56:15(speaking foreign language)
  • 56:32So as you can hear it,
  • 56:35the language resembles nothing like Spanish.
  • 56:38So that's a major issue on the daily
  • 56:41with how to create connections
  • 56:43and trust within these communities
  • 56:45and deliver culturally appropriate language
  • 56:50and the Emergency Information
  • 56:52and I forgot what was the question again?
  • 56:54- So the question is like,
  • 56:56how the local organizations can help
  • 57:03to hold the employers accountable
  • 57:07for putting these workers
  • 57:08in this dangerous places?
  • 57:10- I think it's contingent advocacy
  • 57:13and then the passage
  • 57:15of some of these occupational health
  • 57:17and safety rules,
  • 57:19there obviously needs to be more done on
  • 57:21as I mentioned before
  • 57:22these access verification permits
  • 57:25and it's sort of a black box
  • 57:27about how the county agricultural Commissioner
  • 57:30is issuing these permits to employers.
  • 57:33So does any employer that request one gets one,
  • 57:37are they looking at land fire risk zones
  • 57:41and how close the proximity the fire
  • 57:43is to the farm itself
  • 57:44and again, the air quality issues
  • 57:46and making sure that PP
  • 57:48is being distributed properly and effectively
  • 57:52because we saw instances
  • 57:54in our own research that even at the time,
  • 57:58this was three years ago,
  • 57:59even at the time
  • 57:59when people were donating these N95 mass
  • 58:03some employers wouldn't give them out
  • 58:05and there was other instances
  • 58:07where my co-authors saw
  • 58:09that they were giving it out only to men
  • 58:11and not women.
  • 58:13So there's a very uneven implementation
  • 58:17of some of even the existing health
  • 58:19and safety rules.
  • 58:20So more needs to be done
  • 58:21and there needs to be more transparency
  • 58:24and accountability
  • 58:25and as we have these workers working
  • 58:28in these dangerous zones.
  • 58:31- Thank you so much Michael
  • 58:32for sharing all this kind of justice experience
  • 58:36and thank you all the audience
  • 58:38for joining us today
  • 58:39and I think we'll end now, so bye everyone.
  • 58:43Thank you, Michael. - Thank you, bye-bye.